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Cynthia Winward and Susan Hinckley are co-creators of the At Last She Said It podcast. In this conversation, they share why they started the podcast, where the name came from, and personal experiences they have had as women in the church. They devote the podcast to (finally! at last!) saying everything they have thought but were too uncomfortable to say out loud in church- because the stakes were too high. Whether it’s the fear of jeopardizing a calling or risking a relationship, they talk about difficult things that specifically apply to women of the church. And it’s not just what you say; sometimes it’s simply your way of being in the world. In this episode they delve into the terms and concepts of “patriarchy” and “feminism” and talk about why these can be loaded. They speak to why men’s and women’s experiences in the church might differ and seek to amplify women’s voices and experiences in the church.
Their weekly conversations focus on complexities of their faith and church experiences as Latter-day Saints, amplifying a diversity of women’s voices and views, and encouraging listeners to think about old ideas in new ways.

Cynthia Winward makes her home in Provo, Utah although she will always be a California girl. Fifteen years ago she created Meringue Designs, an online business that sells her digital embroidery designs worldwide. She holds a degree in business management from Brigham Young University.  Her true loves are baking lemon meringue pie, and true to her Mexican heritage, the world’s greatest red chile enchiladas. She loves travelling with her family, reading non-fiction, and getting up early.

Susan M. Hinckley tells stories in words and pictures. She is the creator of the webcomic Gray Area, and a Creative Writing graduate of the University of Utah. A longtime exhibitor with the American Craft Council, her art has appeared in numerous books and magazines and is in private collections across the US. Her essays have appeared in Exponent IIDialogue, and Sunstone magazines. She splits her time between AZ and MN, but her heart is always in the desert.