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Real Religion

“Here’s what I think in a single sentence: I think that the real religion is about the understanding that if we can only still our egos for a few seconds, we might have a chance of experiencing something that is divine in nature. But in order to do that, we have to slice away at our egos and try to get them down to a manageable size, and then still work some practiced light meditation. So real religion is about reducing our egos, whereas all the churches are interested in is egotistical activities, like getting as many members and raising as much money and becoming as important and high-profile and influential as possible. All of which are egotistical attitudes. So how can you have an egotistical organization trying to teach a non-egotistical ideal? It makes no sense, unless you regard religion as crowd control. What I think most organized religion—simply crowd control.”
John Cleese, from his interview in The Onion

Certitude

One of the more interesting things I heard last weekend at the American Psychological Association convention in Boston was this line, “Absolute certainty and evil are actually the same thing,” from a presentation on the belief systems of religious extremists. It struck me as something that many in the Cultural Hall might agree with. Certitude may give people an enhanced sense of meaning, but it reduces the number of alternatives one perceives to be available. The result is increased extremism, both in attitudes and in actions.

When I heard that idea, that absolute certainty and evil are the same thing, I couldn’t help but think of LDS lore. Remember the story about the suggestion that it might be better to make everyone do the right thing, so that all return to God, vs. the alternative that people have choices? Whether or not you believe that those two proposals were actually put forward in a heavenly council, it is an idea worth pondering. Choice is a basic Mormon ideal, and it seems more real to me when we are less certain. Certitude enhances meaning in one’s life, which has certain benefits, of course. But certitude also limits the number of alternatives we see, which impacts our ability to choose among our options.

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Mormons for Marriage

I promised to pass along any LDS efforts to counter church support for Prop 8. The purpose of the site is to educate people about  marriage equality and about LDS people who are lesbian or gay and to provide support to LDS people who oppose the proposition. More videos and blog posts will be added until the California election.

http://mormonsformarriage.com/

Comments are welcome, particularly if you have a related story to tell.

Jesus Wants Me for a Sunbeam, Not for a Torturer

That was the title I suggested to my wife for her talk in sacrament meeting tomorrow. After reading that a graduate of BYU’s law school approved of the “torture memo”, it seems to me that we could benefit from being reminded that Jesus said to turn the other cheek.

What do you think? Should we change the words to the Primary song from “Jesus Wants me for a Sunbeam” to “Jesus Loves Waterboarding”? I don’t remember… was it in the Sermon on the Mount that Jesus approved of physical pain as long as it wasn’t “equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death.”

Sigh. What a world we live in.

To Forward or Not to Forward?

Imagine my husband coming into the house. He steps into the kitchen, and there I am at the computer weeping uncontrollably.
“What happened?” asks spouse as he rushes to me.
Between sobs and catching my breath, I try to answer. It takes a full minute before I speak at all, but finally I manage. “Henrietta just told me about a boy who had to throw a brick through a Jaguar window.”
“Someone threw a brick at Henrietta’s car? Wait a minute, Henrietta drives an old Geo Metro. What was she doing in a Jaguar?”
“Not Henrietta’s Jaguar, just some Jaguar. You’re not listening to the story. The boy was on the side of the road and his little brother was in a wheel chair and he fell out. But no one would stop to help, not one person.”
“Why didn’t Henrietta help him?”
“Henrietta wasn’t there. But anyway, the boy had to throw a brick at the car just to get help.”
“Hmmm. So were these boys friends of Henriettas?”
“She doesn’t know the boys.”
“Oh I get it then. She knew the Jaguar driver.”
“She doesn’t know him either.”
Husband backs away now. He removes his arm from around my trembling shoulders. His interest wanes and he rummages in the refrigerator. Husband pulls out brick of cheese and slices off several pieces. “So, where did this happen?”
“I don’t know,” I say, gaining control now, starting to feel stupid.”
“So now who told Henrietta?”
“People.”
“What people? News people?”
“No, not news people—just people. They forwarded to her. And she forwarded it to me. I’m not sure it really happened. It’s just a story.”
“Oh,” he says as he sticks the cheese in his mouth.
“You have to read it. It’s the best story,” I say as I push the forward button to all my list.”
This was a fairly harmless modern folklore to illustrate a typical forwarded email story. However, many stories circulating the Internet aren’t quite as harmless. Many stories include sentimental stories that end with something like, forward this to all the women you know, or everyone who you care about, or who has touched your life in some way. Nice you think, so you press send. Some emails seem nice, but then they end with a little caveat that says if you don’t pass it on to at least seven people within seven days you will have terrible luck. I’ve even gotten one that said if I didn’t pass the email on, I would never have sex again. Common sense should tell you that it isn’t nice to pass these emails on to anyone you do care about, but I have gotten these kinds of forwards. On the opposite end are the ones promising unimagined blessings if we pass it on to everyone we know. Hmmm. Again, think about it. Neither could be true. Resist the urge to pass the email on.
For years I’ve been getting emails about missing children. Most of these are a hoax, and are actually harming the effort to find the legitimate missing or kidnapped children. Before hitting the forward button on these, take a few seconds and go to www.Snopes.com. Snopes checks out all kinds of rumors, and chances are if the missing child is a hoax it will declare it as such. Another popular type of email is the one that is meant to warn people of danger, or good safety tips. This email may start out with an alarming and shocking story. Again, before hitting send, take a minute and check it out. There are legitimate safety precautions, but don’t burden your friends with unneeded worry about something that isn’t true. Here is an example of a popular chilling urban legend. This was number nine of ten safety tips for women. Checking these tips out on Snopes, told me that some of the tips were useful, while others were actually bad advice. None of us want to pass on safety tips which actually increase danger.
9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her “Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.”
The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, “We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.” He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby’s cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby’s cries outside their doors when they’re home alone at night.
Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby — This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America’s Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana. I’d like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle. I was going to send this to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it onto them, as well.
Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it and it’s better to be safe than sorry.
Here was Snopes answer for this part of the email:
A more lengthy debunking of the “crying baby” lure can be found on our page devoted to that hoax, but in a nutshell: no serial killer used that ruse, and the story about helpful policemen who instructed the woman who heard such cries to stay inside and not open her door is fiction. The “audio tape of a baby’s cries used by a murderer to draw women from their homes” fabrication was born of the anxiety surrounding the hunt for the Baton Rouge serial killer in 2002. That case was profiled on America’s Most Wanted in September 2002 and again in January 2003, but neither airing made any mention of the purported “crying baby” theory.
The rest of the Snopes details each of the ten tips and offers better advice on avoiding being a victim.
Another Internet story where caution should be used before forwarding on are those potentially offensive or character impugning ones. These kind are harder for some people to detect. Often the sender feels strongly they are just passing on something that all good moral patriotic folks would enjoy reading: Wrong. Being in the political minority in Utah, these are the ones I get the most which I feel cross the line in appropriateness. With immigration such a hot button issue, some of these are racist in content, others border on slander, while others are meant to be funny, but are probably only funny to those in the same mindset. Often the sender just sends to everyone on their list, perhaps not realizing that a few on that list will find the email offensive. If you must forward these, take the time to cull your list and send it only to those who will truly appreciate it.
With such an interesting presidential race, some emails impugn character. Often the forwarded email contains a partial truth, hyped information, or something out of context. Most people feel passionate about politics and learning as much as they can about a candidate before they vote. Gleaning that information from forwarded emails is not an effective way to find information. Check our facts. Check Snopes.com. They will research for you. If it’s too good not to pass on, then it still will be too good after you’ve asked yourself a few questions before pressing send.

California Prop 8– LDS Letter writing campaign

I promised earlier that I’d pass on any information about groups organizing to protest LDS church involvement in supporting Prop 8 (that’s the official name for the ballot measure for the amendment to the California constitution banning gay marriage.) This is the first effort I know of that’s gotten off the ground:

http://signingforsomething.org/blog/

It’s a guide to writing letters in protest, and the folks running the site will even help print the letters and get them delivered if you don’t want to do it yourself.

I’d be interested in hearing of any other efforts.

In support of the amendment, I think that church members are being directed to www.protectmarriage.com .

This coming Sunday, June 29, in California….

I’m sure by now our readers know about the First Presidency letter to be read in church this coming Sunday. I don’t want to get into any debates on this post about the letter itself, or gay marriage. My question is– what do you plan to do when the letter is read this Sunday? Do you plan to be in church? If you support the stance of the letter, I’m guessing that you won’t do much in the meeting itself, but will you actually take action based on it? And if you don’t support the letter, will you walk out? Wear a rainbow ribbon pin to church? Any other ideas? And if you’re in a ward where there is any protest or discussion on Sunday, could you report back here? As for me, I’m still undecided whether to attend, and if so, whether to walk out or not.

What’s in it for me?

In response to my own post, “Should I Stay or Should I Go?” I came up with some interesting ideas of what’s in it for me by not deciding - by sitting on the fence, or in the lawn chair at the crossroads.

By not deciding, I’m maintaining the status quo, which is the path of least resistance and least disruptive to my family.

By sitting on the fence, I get to work both sides of the fence. 

A huge part of this is my (self-perceived) place in the communities on both sides of the Mormon/DAMU divide.   I have a lot of my ego tied up in being Nanna P, DAMU denizen and pontificator.  Not as well known (but still someone people recognize) is Ann the Bloggernacler.  Shallow, but there it is … in both places, I’m “somebody.”  Without them, I just another working stiff. By staying on the fence I can be a welcome (beloved!) participant in both groups, as long as I adhere to the appropriate social norms for each (which is pretty easy to do, because I want to be liked). But because I’m on the fence, I won’t ever be wholly in either group.

And then of course there’s the really big inhibiting factor: fear. Fear of everything. Fear of being duped again. Fear of making the wrong decision. Fear of making a big change, but nothing really changing.

So because I am basically a coward, I’ll probably just stay here in the lawn chair at the crossroads for a while longer. There be dragons down those roads.

(This is probably my public navel-gazing quota for the year. Thanks for the space.)

Should I Stay or Should I Go

I have been a long-time proponent of just parking at the crossroads. Mormons and ex-Mormons alike always say stuff like “if you don’t believe, you should just leave.” And I’ve argued with that, vehemently. I can stay if I want. However, now I don’t know if I want.

There are a number of good reasons for staying. I like many of the people. The church is weird sometimes, but most Mormons are awesome. My husband is a faithful believer, and our little guy likes church a lot. I think it would be difficult for my husband and confusing for the kid if I stopped going. I’m pretty plugged in to the whole Mormon internet thing and I feel really connected there. Some of the doctrines, such as eternal marriage and the divine nature of the soul, are illuminating and exciting.

Lately, though, I’m starting to think that’s not enough - that I’m stunting myself by staying. I might make a pretty decent Christian in another church, but I’m a crappy Mormon. All my past efforts to the contrary, all my insights and hope notwithstanding, it just doesn’t work. The unique things that are absolutely central to a Mormon identity - modern prophets, the restoration, authority - are completely meaningless to me. The undercurrents of sexism and political conservatism drive me absolutely batty.

What bugs me most about this is that by not deciding I am still making a choice. By maintaining the status quo, I’m staying. In the past I’ve made the decision to stick it out, but I seem to come back and revisit that decision over and over. It’s like the only decision I can make that WILL stick is to leave.

This indecision’s bugging me.

Leave cell phone at the door…

Not too long ago a letter was read in our ward from our stake leaders emphasizing a concern about “casualness.” The letter went on to specify dress standards, stressing outward appearance, but not addressing the heart at all. It seems that God has suddenly become very concerned with the style of shoes we wear, facial hair, and the color of shirts men wear to church. What happened to “But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for [the LORD seeth] not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.” 1 Samual 16:7 A few months later an announcement was made in Relief Society. Now I’m not sure if this latest announcement was our bishop’s personal addendum to the “increased casualness concern” or also from the stake, but it was suggested that women wear nylons to church. This struck many of us as a strange request, especially with the added to “help the men out”. I don’t know if it occurs to male leaders who request such things, that by emphasizing dress standards for reasons other than self-respect, women are further objectified and demeaned. If men have a difficult time feeling the spirit because some woman has the audacity to bare her legs then perhaps it’s the men who have the problem. I don’t think it’s the woman.

Not able to pass up on an opportunity to make a joke about the nylon announcement–joking helps me cope, I found a movie photo from “The Graduate” of Anne Bancroft as Mrs. Robinson seducing Dustin Hoffman’s character. She is putting on her nylons in the scene and has her leg up in a classic pose. Well in my spoof, I wrote, …don’t forget to wear your nylons to church… or something like that. I sent it to a few of my closest friends. I noticed that nylons are generational. Few young women even own them. Do they make a woman more modest? I don’t think so. My husband doesn’t think so either. A man in my ward suggested that he could go down to the local sexually oriented lingerie store and buy “fishnet nylons for all the women in the ward who don’t have them.” He went on to say we could leave a box by the door of the church house, “to help the men out.”

Then more recently another announcement was made in our ward. It was that we shouldn’t bring our cell phones to church with us, and that we shouldn’t spend “too much time” with technology on the Sabbath. Hmmm. perhaps cutting out genealogy done on the internet, writing to your missionaries, family, calling on the phone, What? What happened to “TEACH correct principles and let them govern themselves…:” Joseph Smith. Teaching in generalities helps each of us to grow at our own pace and needs. Emphasizing trivial specifics on dress standards, leaves many feeling bewildered and unsure of their own worth. I had to smile at a recent enrichment night held in the church house. In our service project one less active sister wore short shorts and a spaghetti strap tank top. Was her service any less valued? How would she have felt if someone had said something about the inappropriateness of her dress? Does God value the service of a clean-shaven man any more than that of a man with a beard?

True principles apply to everyone. Each person can individually assess and apply accordingly. But when we stop teaching principles and teach meaningless standards, the Spirit is constrained. I feel a void in my life when leaders micromanage and forget “what matters most.” I go to church craving meaning and truth and come home with a hollowness that isn’t filled. I go to church hungry and come home starving or with nothing but a candy bar for sustenance. I urge a return to teaching principles. Let’s not “sacrifice that which matters most for that which matters least.” Also check this post: beneath the surface

In a discussion with my seminary teaching son about the importance of teaching correct principles and letting people apply that to their own circumstances, he mentioned this quote from Elder Scott: As you seek spiritual knowledge, search for principles. Carefully separate them from the detail used to explain them. Principles are concentrated truth, packaged for application to a wide variety of circumstances. A true principle makes decisions clear even under the most confusing and compelling circumstances. It is worth great effort to organize the truth we gather to simple statements of principle.

Elder Richard G. Scott “Aquiring Spiritual Knowledge”

Book of Mormon Survey

I received word of a study of people’s attitudes about the Book of Mormon. Please take a few minutes to add your responses. The survey is available at

http://nelsonseawright.bookofmormon.sgizmo.com/

All sides of the faith spectrum (true believers, inactives, ex-members, etc.) are welcome to participate.

Fathers

Fathers come in all types. I’m fortunate to have one who is loving and is always there when I need him. Even 40-somethings can use a helpful word from Dad once in a while, y’know.

We Mormons anthropomorphize God, calling him Heavenly Father, and seeing human characteristics in deity. Of course, in doing this we are following the Greeks and others throughout history. People seem to understand God in much the same way we understand each other. Maybe this is one of my problems with God. Continue reading ‘Fathers’

Racism vs. Sexism

We’ve made some amazing strides. The day when it is possible for a either a woman or a black man to have a really good shot at the highest office in the nation is finally here. It’s something we should all be excited about. Martin Luther King Jr.’s poetic and visionary speech “I Have a Dream,” is close to being realized. But while racism isn’t openly tolerated anymore–people lose their jobs–it certainly rears it’s ugly head. Those of us who are frequenters of the Internet have most likely been sent emails that are racist in content though they are perpetuated as patriotic truth. Any article on the subject of immigration, or Obama which allows Anonymous comments will be filled with racist diatribe. However, racism is legislated against. Even Utah finally has a hate crime bill, which by the way doesn’t include language specific to sexual orientation. Also gender issues still fall short. We’ve seen racism and sexism in this race. Some of the comments made by the voters in West Virginia were embarrassing in this day and age. I can handle them voting for Hilary Clinton–I like her–but some of the reasons folks said they voted for her were to say the least in the mindset of pre-civil rights era. Prejudice is lodged in fear and mistrust and perpetuated by telling lies and half-truths.

Sexism is rampant. Recently during a Clinton speech (someone will know where and when) a sign was held that said, “iron my shirts.” That kind of sexism is winked at, laughed at, and at times embraced. Television allows calling women “bitch” all the time. The word should not be used and next to one other word is about the most degrading thing to say about a woman. Political pundits often use the “b” word to describe Hillary Clinton. I’ve heard Mormon men call her a witch. Seriously, guys–we know what you really mean. Again we’ve made strides. Women have the world open to them and even the highest office in the nation, but still until we can eliminate the kind of language that demeans and is meant to keep women in their place we still have a long ways to go.

I grew up in the 70’s. Feminism was a dirty word in LDS society. ERA–equal rights amendment was suspect. We were taught that legislation that guaranteed what men (white men) took for granted was giving into Satanic beliefs, that equal rights for women would destroy the family. I still remember being angry when a phone surveyor called me in 1982 and asked to speak to the “head of the house.” When I answered that my husband and I were both the heads of the household, the woman actually got angry and told me that if I was married that my husband was the head of the household. I have no idea why I allowed myself to be entrapped by a narrow-minded woman who had bought into the common lingo of the time, but I did and found myself fuming with anger.

The church is still filled with sexism and it’s taught as God’s will and truth. Women are often divided on the issues most important to women, motherhood, equality, families, working, and so forth. We are our own worst enemy. Often women who must work or who choose to work outside the home judge women who stay at home and vice versa. This isn’t common just to Mormon women–Oprah did a whole show on it. It might as well have been a Relief Society discussion. The issues were the same, the arguments were the same, and the group was about as equally divided as I’ve seen in any church group.

I guess my point and I do have one is that we still have a ways to go when it comes to equality. Basically it just comes down to respect.  We should learn to be more kind, more accepting, more tolerant, and more willing to give people a chance. And all this means eliminating the kinds of language and actions that divide us, whether they be divisions on race, religion, or on gender. It’s my hope that this presidential race–no matter the outcome–will be one that brings us together.

How I navigate Mormonism while being a rationalist, non-believing, feminist

How I navigate Mormonism while being a rationalist, non-believing, feminist:

1) To avoid the guilt that I initially felt upon disbelieving [early in my 20s], I recognized that everyone has their own form of Mormonism. Thanks to a great therapist. Everyone emphasizes something different-even the GAs. And there are even the crazies who use mormonism to justify their own hatreds [of foreigners, gays, working women, whatever]. I just provide the counterbalance to those who go off the right- wing end.

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Aspects of Mormon life that I love

 Guest post by Natasha:

I have wanted to post on this a long time.  I think sometimes I spend too much time thinking about how Mormonism limits me, without thinking about how it has helped me.   But as a mostly non-believer, I stay in Mormonism because my life has been so enriched by it.

Aspects of Mormonism that I love/like:

–the belief that we each have a divine worth and should therefore make decisions accordingly.  I don’t know if I believe this anymore, but when I did, it helped me to make MUCH better decisions than I would have otherwise, especially as a young person.

– the “it takes a village [ward] to raise a child” mentality.  Hillary was right!  Our children do so much better if there is a community of mostly good people looking after them, and not just the nuclear family.  My husband spends a lot of time helping other peoples’ teenage boys [in scouts] learn responsibility and decency and I look forward to someone else reinforcing these same values to my sons when they are older.  I love that my ward growing up gave me several families as  alternative examples so that I know that my dysfunctional nuclear family was not the only way to go.

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Every member a friend?

Since I’ve never lived outside of Utah for more than three months, I’m about as Utah Mormon as they come–that is as far as geography. I grew up in one of those cities south of the Mormon curtain (the point of the mountain) that is close to 90 % LDS. Nevertheless one of my best friends and next door neighbors wasn’t a member. “Jamie” came to primary with me. In those days, primary was right after school on Tuesdays, and everyone simply walked from the school to the church house. I didn’t think anything about her coming. She came simply because it was something to do–not because she had any interest in the church. Besides primary was fun back then. And we got these really cool green bandalos to wear with great looking icons glued onto them. She decided that since she came to my church, that the fair thing would be for me to go to hers, and so she invited me. Her church was called the Community Church of Christ, (I think.) I must’ve been around ten. Continue reading ‘Every member a friend?’

Religion is a practice (please watch this video)

As scholar Karen Armstrong accepts her 2008 TED Prize, she talks about how the Abrahamic religions — Islam, Judaism, Christianity — have been diverted from the moral purpose they share to foster compassion. But Armstrong has seen a yearning to change this fact. People want to be religious, she says; we should act to help make religion a force for harmony. She asks the TED community to help her build a Charter for Compassion — to help restore the Golden Rule as the central global religious doctrine.

Watch Karen Armstrong’s talk here

or http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/234

When the shelf comes crashing down

I’d heard once that Sister Camilla Kimball had said that when there was something about the gospel she didn’t understand, she put that on a shelf. I liked the idea. I envisioned a shelf full of food storage and canned goods, and I started piling up my issues–stuff that I didn’t understand. Polygamy—that’s a big one—about a fifty pound bag of flour. Next, the priesthood being barred from blacks—another 5O pound bag of flour. Already my shelf was starting to sag pretty heavily in the middle, but I was doing okay. I could move forward. I still had a testimony. In spite of what people say, about a never-changing church, I was more than okay with the church changing. Nothing is perfect in the early fledging years—so I told myself. We are better now. Polygamy has publicly been labeled a “blip” That “blip” has caused considerable heartbreak, abuse, and misunderstanding—some are still being victimized. Look at Texas. But I could keep that on the shelf.

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Moving Forward: The LDS Polygamy Question

In today’s Salt Lake Tribune is an op-ed piece I wrote about polygamy, copied below. Some people will say I’m overstepping my bounds, and others will say I don’t go far enough. I simply hope it makes people think about the church’s connections to polygamy. The present policy - relying on the Associated Press and other news organizations to clarify who is and who is not Mormon - seems bound to fail, as the public doesn’t consult the AP Style Guide when they talk about such things.

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Thoughts on Loving our Sisters and Brothers

I read this a couple of days ago and thought it is a wonderful reminder to us all

“Our task is to learn that if we can voyage to the ends of the earth and there find ourselves in the aborigine who most differs from ourselves, we will have made a fruitful pilgrimage. That is why pilgrimage is necessary, in some shape or other.  Mere sitting at home and meditating on the divine presence is not enough for our time.  We have to come to the end of a long journey and see that the stranger we meet there, is no other than ourselves—which is the same as saying that we find Christ in him”  –Thomas Merton

Eckhart Tolle on Spirituality and Religion

In Eckhart Tolle’s book entitled: A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life’s Purpose, it says the following about Spirituality and Religion:

What is the role of the established religions in the arising of the new consciousness? Many people are already aware of the difference between spirituality and religion. They realize that having a belief system–a set of thoughts that you regard as the absolute truth-does not make you spiritual no matter what the nature of those beliefs is. In fact, the more you make your thoughts (beliefs) into your identity, the more cut off you are from the spiritual dimension within yourself. Many “religious” people are stuck at that level. They equate truth with thought, and as they are completely identified with thought (their mind), they claim to be in sole possession of the truth in an unconscious attempt to protect their identity. They don’t realize the limitations of thought. Unless you believe (think) exactly as they do, you are wrong in their eyes, and in the not-too distant past, they would have felt justified in killing you for that. And some still do, even now. Continue reading ‘Eckhart Tolle on Spirituality and Religion’

Tom Lantos and Mormonism

Tom Lantos, a powerful member of the US House of Representatives for many years, died recently. In this report of his funeral I learned he had a significant connection to Mormonism: His wife and daughters, who apparently converted some time ago.
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Spiritual Practice

I just read Jana Riess’ Essay Tributaries of my Faith.  It is thoughtful and beautiful.  One part that really jumped out at me is about spiritual practice (bolded below). 

How we cooperate in the world’s redemption brings me to the second tributary of my faith, Renewal—spiritual rejuvenation through concrete, regular disciplines. Spiritual disciplines such as prayer, Sabbath-keeping, and fasting invite us back to God. They give us a rhythm for the days, the weeks, the months, the years. In Mormonism, we have a wonderful tradition of emphasizing the vital importance of the spiritual disciplines. We want to do it right. But the flip side of that emphasis is that too often Mormons adopt a legalistic view of spiritual practice—what matters is that you do it correctly, not that it changed you or that you are growing from the practice. We need to guard against dead legalism and rote religion. We also need to guard against our unstinting activism. Don’t get me wrong; one of the things I find most attractive about Mormonism is our firm tie to this world and to its people—we are here to serve one another. This is key. But what we lack, and what Christian history can teach us, is the equally important value of contemplation. Holding action and contemplation in a balanced tension is one of the greatest calls of the Christian life.

Question for the group:

What are some real ways you have changed and grown because of the practice of Mormonism? Even though you might take a non-traditional or non-literal approach. Read her entire essay here (pdf)

Rocky Mountain Retreat– update

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Rocky Mountain Retreat for LDS Women (Links to earlier post about the retreat)

This year’s featured speaker is Claudia Bushman.

Registration is open now. For more details, and registration forms, visit the retreat’s website.

Link to good “Middle Way” post

I really liked this post on Zelophehad’s Daughters site by Lynette.

It is called The “Only True” Church: Does “True” Necessitate “Only”?

Also, have any of you read from the Theologian Paul Knitter? I have not but now I am curious.

Sharing the Gospel ??

I was in the UK last week and had the chance to visit with some dear friends that are serving a mission there (senior missionaries).  I asked them the following question:

“What is different about the Church over there, or at least different than you expected?”

The response surprised me.They said:

 “The Saints here love the Church very much. But seem very reluctant to share the Gospel with others and seem reluctant to share friend’s names with the missionaries.”

 My questions to you all on this Blog.

  1. Is this unique to the UK (nobody does it here in New York either) I don’t think people in general feel comfortable with this?
  2. Do any of you invite friends to Church? Or have you ever given names of friends or collegues to missionaries. How do you feel about it?
  3. Do you view the Gospel and the Mormon Church as the same thing or two very different things?

Did I Forget to Get Angry?

Hello everyone,

I know I don’t post often but I have been thinking about something and I felt like this was the right place to air the laundry.

So like many of you, Mormonism really screwed me up. I mean it was doing a number on me while I was in it, but leaving really turned my brain around. In the subsequent years I have noticed a severe increase in depression and anxiety and a general decrease in more obscure fields like purpose and sense of belonging. After 5 years out of the church I look around and think “Hey! Wha’ happened?”

While leaving the church I was obsessed with not being one of those ex-mormons; the kind who spend all their time seething and hating on the apostles and jumping all over the doctrine and pointing out that Brigham Young owned slaves or whatever. You know, the kind of person whose comments we tend to delete on this site.

That’s not to say I wasn’t mad, but I didn’t really focus it anywhere. I didn’t get mad at the prophet or apostles. They seem like good guys. I didn’t get mad at my bishop, or my mission president even though they were kind of jerks about the whole thing. I didn’t even really have any fights with my parents where I told them how much the church had hurt me. In fact once I left I got really positive about the church just so they wouldn’t… well I don’t know why. It just seemed the thing to do.

Joseph Smith once said, and I paraphrase: Anyone who leaves the church is not just gonna hate it, but they will be an enemy to it the rest of their lives.

Well I don’t want that. Why does it have to be like that?

I have often described the feelings surrounding leaving the church as the same around breaking up with your one true love. You thought your relationship was one thing, but it turned out pretty f’en different. But a lot of those feelings, anger, pain, rage, they don’t have anywhere to go. With relationships you can always find some other sucker to take you on, but I have zero desire to find another religion (sorry Unitarian church, I’m just not feelin’ ya).

So this is my question: What do I do with this black tornado inside of me? What do you do?  Should I pretend I am 15 and the next time I visit my parents storm out of a room slamming a door yelling “You don’t own me!” Should I go punch some missionaries in the nose (god knows it happened to me enough on my mission)? Should I just get a punching bag and some stronger sedatives?

Joseph Smith also said, and again I paraphrase: If a religion can’t ask you to give it everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, then that’s a wussy religion.

Ladies and Gents, I’m here to tell ya, that Mormonism aint no wuss.

Sighsville. Thanks for letting me vent everyone. John I’ll understand it if you take away my posting privileges.

Rocky Mountain Retreat

Snow Mountain Ranch

Save the Date

2008 Rocky Mountain Retreat for LDS Women,
May 30th - June 1, 2008
Snow Mountain Ranch, YMCA of the Rockies

Featured speaker: Claudia Bushman
More details and registration info coming mid-February

An announcement for Mormon “women of good will” who’d like to spend a weekend in the Colorado Rockies, eating, talking and meeting others. Continue reading ‘Rocky Mountain Retreat’

Religion and Humor

Religion and comedy have been in the news recently, with some interesting Mormon angles to the story. A few weeks ago the Salt Lake Tribune had an article about Mormon comics that was quite funny. Alas, the article is archived, although you can still view the comments at that site and I think you can pay to see the original at the Trib archive. In today’s Deseret News is another, arising from Mike Huckabee’s joke about a family recipe that offended Catholics. The story also mentions some jokes I’ve collected on my website. Take a minute and enjoy the jokes. It’s Saturday, after all, and you deserve a smile.

Interview excerpts w/ Greg Prince

For me personally, one of the most important factors in keeping the “Mormon Experience” meaningful in my life has been finding mentors. Getting to know women and men who are bright, compassionate, thoughful and still connected. I am lucky to have had Greg Prince as one of these people in my life. Our families have been friends as long as I can remember. His impact on me has been significant.

This morning I re-read pieces of his interview for the documentary on PBS. It did my heart good. Thanks again Greg.

Here are some of my favorite highlights and a link to the interview:

Continue reading ‘Interview excerpts w/ Greg Prince’

Out of Step

An incident at a recent Stake Conference upset me, probably more than it should have. I was upset enough that I left the meeting midway. The episode brought to the forefront something I have known for a long time, even since before I lost my faith: my thinking is not aligned with mainstream Mormon thought. Continue reading ‘Out of Step’

A trip to the Jockey outlet

After a year and a half, my wife has become accustomed to the idea that I am essentially an unbelieving Mormon. Along the way we’ve had some conversations that can only be called unpleasant, but these days I am less frustrated, she is less defensive, and we can talk freely about the Church without anybody crying, cursing, or feeling guilty.

Perhaps the most crucial conversation we had came several months ago. Two days previous, my wife had firmly requested that I stop wearing garments unless I planned to return to the temple. “If you’re wearing them just to appease me,” she said, “I wish you wouldn’t.”

Continue reading ‘A trip to the Jockey outlet’

Read Your Scriptures = Eat your Brussels Sprouts

In sacrament meeting two weeks ago, a speaker asked, “What are you willing to give up to be closer to your Father in Heaven? A computer game? A TV show?” She suggested that the time gained by sacrificing this leisure pursuit was to be spent reading the scriptures.  Ugh.

I know, I know. It’s good for you. So are brussels sprouts. It is a measure of my spiritual sterility that I would rather play solitaire on my computer (I lost $1000 in pretend money last night during a bout with insomnia) than read the scriptures. I don’t know HOW to read the scriptures. Randomly? Meditatively? Make a plan? Set a date? In the bathtub? Could you, would you, with a fox?

I don’t much like Brussels sprouts, but I like broccoli, and I like cauliflower. I’m not opposed to cruciferous vegetables in principle. Maybe I just need a different approach. I have a KJV and an RSV. I prefer the RSV. Would a different version help? A good study guide? A concordance?

All Good Gifts

Over at Various Stages of Mormondom, where I did a nice long guest stint, this week’s theme is Gifts. As with so many short phrases, the topic brought a song to mind. Even though it invokes harvest images, I think it’s very suitable for this time of year.

The song, “All Good Gifts,” is from the ancient musical “Godspell.”

There are a number of versions on YouTube, but either the video is lousy or the tenor is flat (or both!) so I’ll leave you to seek one out yourself. It’s a beautiful song, based on Episcopal Hymn #138 (or so I read on the Stephen Schwartz music site).

ALL GOOD GIFTS

We plow the fields and scatter the good seed on the land..
But it is fed and watered by God’s almighty hand..
He sends us snow in winter, the warmth to swell the grain…
The breezes and the sunshine, and soft refreshing rain…

All good gifts around us
Are sent from Heaven above
So thank the Lord, oh thank the Lord for all his love…

We thank thee then, O Father, for all things bright and good,
The seedtime and the harvest, our life our health our food,
No gifts have we to offer for all thy love imparts
But that which thou desirest, our humble thankful hearts!

All good gifts around us
Are sent from Heaven above..
So thank the Lord, oh thank the Lord for all his love..

Merry Christmas.

Feliz Navidad

I am leaving straight from work today to go to the airport to fly back to California for Christmas. As excited as I am to see my family, Christmas time has taken on a slightly different flavor over the last few years. As my core faith in the church began to erode, so did my faith in the divinity of Jesus. While I still revere him symbolically and do love the stories of his life, my conviction that he was really half human, half divine has dwindled. Or rather I should say I still believe in his partial divinity as much as I believe in my own, which varies significantly from day to day.

It is pretty easy to slip into a black-sheep mode during this time. When so many of my family events involve impromptu testimonies from everyone I love, it is hard to not let the doubt carousel in my head spin out of control. I find myself folding my arms a lot and fantasizing about sinking into couches.

This year I am determined to not let myself feel this way. Or at least try to limit the amount of time I spend feeling apart. I think as outsiders of the faith we spend so much time feeling separate that we are almost unable to let ourselves enjoy the company of our loved ones. Sometimes they do keep us at arms length, but often times we are pushing back just as hard.

Holiday seasons are always dangerous times emotionally. It is near impossible to meet expectations set for us by Hallmark and McDonald’s and even harder to come up against the expectations of a faith abandoned. We all need to let ourselves off the hook a little this year. And you know who was into letting yourself off the hook? Jesus.

It is soon to be the darkest day of the year. Whether things are a bummer now or not, symbolically we all have our long Decembers. This year I will take comfort in knowing that at the end of a long year, and an even longer month I have one day when I can believe that the next year will be better and I can spend it with my family. And that can be Jesus for me this year.

I love you all and I hope you feel love and hope this holiday season.

Aside: Mini GumboSnacker

Mark Brown from BCC came to church in our ward today, and afterward he joined me, Left Field, and The Kid for a mini-Gulf Coast Snacker. We didn’t have gumbo - I’ve been here five years, and haven’t yet learned to make gumbo. Instead, we had a pasta thing with shrimp, lots of lively conversation, and even a spiritual minute or two. And cheesecake!

The next GumboSnacker will be Friday, February 1st. We’ll go to the Krewe of Selene Mardi Gras parade in Slidell and then come to my house and hang out. Maybe we’ll have gumbo this time. Y’all come!

At Mark’s request, here is the recipe for the shrimp pasta thing:

2 T olive oil
1/3 cup chopped onion
2 cloves garlic
12 oz. jar marinated artichoke hearts, drained and cut into quarter-sized pieces
1 can diced tomato (do not drain)
2 lbs. raw shrimp, heads, tails and veins removed (from frozen is fine)
1 12 oz. can evaporated milk
1/8 tsp cayenne pepper (or to taste)
1 cup Parmesan cheese
1 lb. pasta (I used spaghetti; penne would be good, too)

Cook pasta according package directions.

Meanwhile, saute onion in oil over medium heat until almost soft, add garlic. Add artichoke hearts when onion is softened, stir until heated and then add shrimp and cayenne pepper. Cook until shrimp is almost opaque. Add tomatoes, undrained, and evaporated milk. Heat until lightly bubbling; add Parmesan cheese and mix in well.

Toss in bowl with drained pasta. Serve immediately with extra Parmesan cheese and fresh black pepper.

Escalation

For the last five years, I have been reading and participating in discussions about the church: doctrine, practice and culture. For much of that time, it was pretty intense, and I was really angry. Now, I’ve thoroughly mellowed out.

Apparently, my new Zen Mormonism is just in time for the rest of the English speaking world to start having the kinds of discussions I was having three years ago. The same old arguments about “is the church a cult?” are now playing out on a national stage, thanks to our Good Buddy Mitt and his Evil Twin, Mike. Right and left alike are freaking out about how stupid/cultish/racist/brainwashed/hellbound Mormons are. It’s only been going on for about a week, since Mitt’s speech, but I am well and thoroughly sick of it.

I have my own disagreements with church teachings and doctrine, but nothing is as simplistic as these people are making it, but there’s no room in the discourse for a sensible conversation. As in almost all areas in politics, the extremes define the rhetoric.

Back when some lefty bloggers working for the Edwards campaign wrote about President Bush’s “wingnut Christofascist base,” a guy in my ward spoke from his bully pulpit about how evil Democrats are for oppressing Christians, and how dare they talk about his faith that way? Well, I’ll tell you how they dare: politics is a dirty business, and when you drag your faith into it, it’s only a matter of time before people start pissing on it.

Mormons, welcome to the intersection of politics and religion. Careful where you step.

Fundamentalist Mormon : Mormon :: Mormon : Christian

Here’s an analogy for you to consider–

Fundamentalist Mormon : Mormon :: Mormon : Christian

Just as Fundamentalist Mormosn often consider themselves to be the ‘real’ Mormons, Mormons often consider themselves to be the ‘real’ Christians. And yet, both are viewed by the group to which they aspire as outdated, strange, and even oppressive.

Of course, analogies break down. Where does this one fall apart?

Doug Brewster Goes to Heaven

By Peggy Rogers

Peggy is a dear friend who passed away Wednesday afternoon. A cultural Mormon, Peggy wrote this story several years ago. I really like it, and I wanted to share it.

Doug Brewster Goes to Heaven

When he thought about his former life (and it wasn’t often) the last thing that Doug Brewster remembered was climbing into his green Pinto, pulling out of the parking lot of Last Chance Tavern, and heading home. Of course he’d had a few beers–it was Friday night, wasn’t it? and his job at the steel mill was dry work. He deserved a little recreation.

Continue reading ‘Doug Brewster Goes to Heaven’

Past & present

I’ve found myself in an uncomfortable situation: a former lover of mine (from nearly two decades ago) is working for the same company as my husband. Their offices are on the same floor. When visiting my spouse at work, I sometimes encounter this other guy (I’ll call him “Dean”).

I really can’t figure out what the appropriate response is when I see Dean. I want to be friendly—he played a pretty significant role in my life. Yet whenever I see him I hear an echo of my bishop telling me that I should never think of this man or our relationship again. Bishop said the slate was “wiped clean” when I repented and it was as if this had never happened.

But it’s not as if this never happened. It did happen and it was important to my development as a sexual person and as the woman who would eventually marry my husband. I have no regrets about my relationship with Dean. At the same time, I’m not at all tempted to resume any intimacy with him.

Continue reading ‘Past & present’

I Don’t Know Much

That title is not just hyperbole. I really don’t know much of anything, except maybe how to spell hyperbole. I gave up saying “I know” about five years ago. I used to think I knew stuff. Now I know(!) better. That’s one thing I do know: how little I know.

So, given that I don’t know much, here are some things I think and believe and hope, with a teeny bit of knowing thrown in where the term is accurate. Continue reading ‘I Don’t Know Much’

What I know

The discussion surrounding the recent conference talk, Mothers Who Know, was fascinating. I read the Feminist Mormon Housewives and Exponent II conversations and other blog and bulletin board discussions, as well as the comments on the articles posted at the Deseret News and the Tribune, and found that I couldn’t help but react, sometimes in agreement, and sometimes in disagreement. Later I read What Women Know, which focuses on a broadened conceptualization of women’s many roles in life, and I found myself thinking again about the women and men in my life who have made a difference. If I have amounted to anything in life, it is largely because of the things I have learned from others. Whether from women or from men, I most value the things I have learned through nurturance and compassion. Hierarchy, commandments, and guilt have proven poor teachers in my case.

Continue reading ‘What I know’

The Unseen Life part 2 (Celebrate Your Wilderness)

 Below is a quote from John O’Donohue, he is a philosopher, poet and resigned Catholic priest. I think it has interesting parallels to how we all approach our own relationship with the Church.  And also how we approach our relationships with spouses, family, and friends in regard to the Church.

“Solitude is the sense of space as nourishing. What happens with solitude is that people equate it with loneliness, which frightens them. But I don’t know a good friendship or relationship in which there was not long periods of solitude. There is a way in which we treat our relationships almost as a colonial expedition: we want to colonize the space, all the territory between, until there is no wilderness left. Most couples who have deadened in each others presence have colonized their space this way. They have domesticated each other beyond recognition.

I think it is more interesting to be with somebody who still has his or her genuine wilderness. Upon seeing that in the other person, you promise yourself: One thing I will never do is try to domesticate her wilderness. Because the authenticity of her difference and the purity of her danger and the depth of her affection are all being secretly nourished by that wilderness.”

Celebrate your Wilderness!

Uninterested

I blow hot and cold on any number of things.  Earlier this year I really enjoyed reading feminist web sites, but then that got old.  I was really gung ho about dieting for the first couple of months in 2007, but I lost interest in that too.  Lately, I’ve found my passion for my paid work to be waning, though my occasional trips to the office will fan those flames and I’ll get excited about it again, at least for a while.

Right now, I’m not particularly interested in Mormon stuff.  I’ve been reading and writing about Mormon stuff on the internet since about 2000 or so, and I don’t think there are many Mormon issues that I haven’t heard discussed at least once.  Multiple first vision accounts.  MIH.  Helen Mar Kimball.  Post-Manifesto plural marriage.  Treasure guardians.  ZZZZZZZZZ.

I think my interest has waned at least in part because my engagement has been so scaled back.  Mormon Matters was a huge recent catalyst for my continued excitement about Mormon stuff, but it’s pretty much on hiatus and maybe gone for good.  All that’s left are the blogs, the boards, and Real Life church.  Only Real Life church brings any obligation to participate with it, and I’m able to blow that off quite easily when I’m out of town for a week (as I am now).

What keeps your interest up in Mormon stuff?  Anger?  Curiousity?

Happy Halloween! (Don’t dress like Elvira at BYU)

Halloween is one of my favorite holidays. Yes, I have a sweet tooth, and the dental bills to prove it. Because my favorite holidays are the ones that involve food, I love Halloween. Continue reading ‘Happy Halloween! (Don’t dress like Elvira at BYU)’

Emergency Preparedness

Brothers and Sisters, I would indeed be remiss if I did not stand before you today and tell you that I know 72 hour emergency kits are true. Cell phones are also true, as well as the internet and my local PBS Station, KPBS. And wise use of sufficient tax dollars is also a true principle.

Sunday, in the late afternoon, the wind was hot, and blowing hard at my house in San Diego County, Continue reading ‘Emergency Preparedness’

The Unseen Life - part 1

There is a great magazine called The Sun (not to be confused with Sunstone), I highly recommend it. I just read a wonderful interview with John O’Donohue, he is a philosopher, author and retired/resigned Catholic priest. It was so interesting and inspiring. Here is the first of a few parts I thought would be of interest to this group/blog and the Mormon experience.

Interviewer: You’ve said that each Catholic can create his or her own “niche” in the faith. Is that really Catholicism?

O’Donohue: The term a la carte Catholicism has been used to denigrate those who pick and choose from the tradition, selecting only what nourishes, challenges, and heals them. On the other hand, nobody goes into a restaurant and chooses everything on the menu. Continue reading ‘The Unseen Life - part 1′

Ken Jennings Interview

If you haven’t seen it already, check out this interview with Ken Jennings, about being a Mormon.

Creator of my own life

I heard a story about a man of action. He had accomplished a great deal in his life; he’d had adventures, and engaged in interesting and creative hobbies. His wife followed him. In the process she also had adventures and engaged in interesting and creative hobbies. But they were his choices, his ideas. He was the instigator. He was the actor. She was along for the ride.

I find myself in much the same situation, and it bothers me. Few people who knew me back in my single parent days would describe me as a follower. If things happened in my life, I made them happen. Nobody was going to do it for me! Now, after ten years of marriage, I find myself a reactor to the life that’s happening around me, instead of creating the life I want to live.

I wonder how much my twenty years of church indoctrination has contributed to this? Nothing is really keeping me from writing music reviews, or auditioning for local theatre, or marching for peace from Washington Square through the French Quarter on October 27th. My husband would encourage my pursuit of my own interests and certainly isn’t standing in my way. However, I seem to think that the only valid alternative use of the hours I spend on the internet is housework. And I hate housework.

I think the church has not-so-subtly encouraged my passivity. I do what I’ve been called to do, and if I’ve not been called to do it, I don’t. I’m not creating my own life. I’m existing within the life I’ve landed in. It doesn’t have to be this way. So why is it? How do we become actors in our own lives, instead of reactors to others? I am reminded of a line from the play Auntie Mame: “Life is a banquet,” Mame Dennis declared, “and most poor sons of bitches are starving to death.”

Another GC Come and Gone

General Conference came and went, and I didn’t see even a minute of it. I heard a couple of minutes of the first session on Saturday, but it was after the Big News. I didn’t stick around to hear how wonderful it is to live in Utah, courtesy of some guy who lives there.

I did closely follow the proceedings on the Bloggernacle. For those of you who are in somewhat the same situation as I am (sorta believing, but with limits) I highly, highly recommend it. Intelligent thoughtful people extract the best from the conference talks and make them interesting. I may even read some of the actual talks when the Ensign comes out next month!

Bloggernacle Conference Highlights:

Once again, the Bloggernacle has come through for me.  It’s amazing how much more I like church filtered through the lens of smart people who don’t have my cynicism or bias.